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jim, let's start with the reasons that morsi has given for these new powers. >> hi craig. well morsi spoke, he came out of his presidential palace a few hours ago to address his thousands of supporters at that point, gathered around and that's what he told them. he said that he had to take this extreme step because there were opponents of the revolution namely and specifically the prosecutor general, he would be likely the supreme court like our supreme court chief justice and several other judges that they were interfering in this what has become a tedious, difficult, paralyzed process of writing egypt's new constitution. he called them quote weebles eating away at egypt's nation saying that egypt really does risk losing this moment in its history unless that process speeds up. he has decreed that there will be a vote that -- in two months time there will be an election, i should say, the parliamentary election. a vote on the new constitution. the problem is that those writing the constitution they're all islamists and that's because the liberals and secularists and nonis
jim, let's start with the reasons that morsi has given for these new powers. >> hi craig. well morsi spoke, he came out of his presidential palace a few hours ago to address his thousands of supporters at that point, gathered around and that's what he told them. he said that he had to take this extreme step because there were opponents of the revolution namely and specifically the prosecutor general, he would be likely the supreme court like our supreme court chief justice and several...
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he can override any decision that has been made by morsi and that will be made by morsi. in a way, he is trying to create an imperial rpresidency, an imperial presidency that basically anoints morsi as the supreme lead over egypt, period. he monstrously miscalculated. he has thrown egypt into a political and constitutional crisis. he has finally succeeded in unifying the fractured opposition. now not just the liberals and the nationalists and the leftists. millions of egyptians are outraged in morsi addressing his own office of absolute authority. >> that's the question i have though. this has sparked massive protests as we can see. he is now -- you know, he's standing his ground but he also seems to be giving a little ground. is there cause in your view, maybe from our viewpoint, western standpoint, to take a step back and let this play out a little bit before cle clairing egypt's great democracy is over. is there a chance that by the owned the day there will be a resolution and could maybe strengthen democracy? >> i have no doubt in my mind that this is an egyptian cris
he can override any decision that has been made by morsi and that will be made by morsi. in a way, he is trying to create an imperial rpresidency, an imperial presidency that basically anoints morsi as the supreme lead over egypt, period. he monstrously miscalculated. he has thrown egypt into a political and constitutional crisis. he has finally succeeded in unifying the fractured opposition. now not just the liberals and the nationalists and the leftists. millions of egyptians are outraged in...
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and just in the past hour mohamed morsi met with top judges. morsi issued a decree seizing new powers. it sparked massive riots that killed one protesters. nbc's jim maceda joins us live. we were advised to be careful when saying morsi tried to seize power. specifically run down the decree or what he's seeking here. >> reporter: well, the whole issue of power is what's at stake, and you mentioned that meeting in your lead. that meeting with -- between morsi and top egyptian judges is absolutely critical to this whole playing out of what's going to happen to egyptians in this country. that face-to-face meeting has been going on now for almost four hours. there were indications going into it that a compromise was close, and now this gets into legalistic leads but this is important. it's about a constitutional crisis. it does appear that morsi agrees to a sweep of the decree which effectively allowed him to rule at will. but now, according to this source, it will only apply to sovereign decisions, big decisions, like declaring wars. if it's true,
and just in the past hour mohamed morsi met with top judges. morsi issued a decree seizing new powers. it sparked massive riots that killed one protesters. nbc's jim maceda joins us live. we were advised to be careful when saying morsi tried to seize power. specifically run down the decree or what he's seeking here. >> reporter: well, the whole issue of power is what's at stake, and you mentioned that meeting in your lead. that meeting with -- between morsi and top egyptian judges is...
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for president morsi. and president obama praised him for being pragmatic and helping to get this deal done. >> actually, i have to go real quick. but jonathan, you said you were a bit pessimistic about israel and gaza, figuring it out. do you think this is a good start? >> this is actually like a really surprisingly good sign that he would be the -- play this role. just to underscore this, he hasn't named israel -- he hasn't referred to it by name since he took office. >> andy kroll, jonathan strong, thanks for coming in. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> the timing could not be worse for walmart. thousands of union-backed workers are threatening to walk off the job as the retailer takes off its busiest holiday shopping season. a decision is not expected until tomorrow at the earliest. i'm joined by colby harris, a walmart employee in texas, with a group making a change at walmart. colby, welcome and happy thanksgiving. why are you protesting? >> we're protesting because walmart has continuously retaliated
for president morsi. and president obama praised him for being pragmatic and helping to get this deal done. >> actually, i have to go real quick. but jonathan, you said you were a bit pessimistic about israel and gaza, figuring it out. do you think this is a good start? >> this is actually like a really surprisingly good sign that he would be the -- play this role. just to underscore this, he hasn't named israel -- he hasn't referred to it by name since he took office. >> andy...
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look at morsi's declaration. one thing he didn't do is he didn't say, i am resurrecting the parliament that this judiciary dissolved. in fact, his spokesman said they're not going to do that. and that to me further confirms the notion that this is about him consolidating the power of the presidency and not about bringing back -- >> i want to hear your thoughts how the use navigates this treacherous terrain. that after this break. >>> from new york, i'm chris hayes. back with my panel. we're talking about the remarkable events in egypt, which continues to be one of the most interesting places on the globe politically, because it is the intense most revolutionary environment. it was one of the most eventful weeks in egypt since the revolution. and in the region because of it. and mohammed morsi was part of sort of along with hillary clinton, was doing this kind of shuttle diplomacy around negotiating a cease-fire with the israelis and hamas in gaza. the cease-fire makes egypt the enforcer of the agreement, quite re
look at morsi's declaration. one thing he didn't do is he didn't say, i am resurrecting the parliament that this judiciary dissolved. in fact, his spokesman said they're not going to do that. and that to me further confirms the notion that this is about him consolidating the power of the presidency and not about bringing back -- >> i want to hear your thoughts how the use navigates this treacherous terrain. that after this break. >>> from new york, i'm chris hayes. back with my...
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we saw that president obama was in continuous talks with morsi. he spoke with him three times throughout a 24-hour period in one instance. so, i think they are encouraged by the way this all turned out. they feel as though it bodes well for future relations between the two countries. >> got to love the power of talking. thanks to kristin welker. have a great thanksgiving. >> reporter: you, too. thanks. >>> stay with us. the day's "toplines" are coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> from planes and trains to automobiles to one unlucky gobbler. here are today's "toplines" the turkey has cooked. >> it seems thanksgiving day is upon us. >> well i'll see you tomorrow. gobble, gobble. >> the turkey pardoned by president obama tomorrow is staying at the "w" hotel. >> in the spirit of the season, i have one more gift to give. it goes to a pair of turkeys named cobbler and gobbler. >> because he wants the turkey got into the mini
we saw that president obama was in continuous talks with morsi. he spoke with him three times throughout a 24-hour period in one instance. so, i think they are encouraged by the way this all turned out. they feel as though it bodes well for future relations between the two countries. >> got to love the power of talking. thanks to kristin welker. have a great thanksgiving. >> reporter: you, too. thanks. >>> stay with us. the day's "toplines" are coming up. ♪ ♪...
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is it all over morsi granting himself these further powers? >> reporter: yes, alex, it is about that. he came out, by the way, a good hour ago to talk, to speechify about the presidential powers. that's about four or five miles away from what you're describing, which is at tahrir square, the famous tahrir square. morsi spoke to his supporters saying that he had to do this to break really what is a log jam in writing up a new constitution. he was saying much of the judiciary are very honorable people but there are five or six or seven bad eggs, if you will. these are remnants of the mubarak regime and they're constantly interfering with the process. meanwhile, the country is continuing to be mired in poverty, a lack of social justice and what have you. so he says to protect the revolution, to protect the principles of the revolution and to protect this country's forward movement towards democracy he needed to do this to keep the constitution and the writing of the constitution moving forward. >> now, jim, if he does this, it's been reported he
is it all over morsi granting himself these further powers? >> reporter: yes, alex, it is about that. he came out, by the way, a good hour ago to talk, to speechify about the presidential powers. that's about four or five miles away from what you're describing, which is at tahrir square, the famous tahrir square. morsi spoke to his supporters saying that he had to do this to break really what is a log jam in writing up a new constitution. he was saying much of the judiciary are very...
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maybe you have met morsi? >> several times. >> to me, this is not my point, other people have made it. there's a lot of putenesque qualities. putin is running the show and proven remarkably inept and i wonder if there are differences to understand. >> there's something i like about your question. we are talking about morsi, not the muse limb brotherhood. lots of people look at what morsi has done add say this proves islam is incompatible. morsi is acting the way egyptian presidents have acted for 60 years. there's something clearly about the institution of the presidency that, you know, endows those who occupy it with a feeling of they should be running the show. >> here is the difference now. while these kinds of decisions could be made by mubarak and any decent against him could be brutally suppressed by the military and state regime, this time, what you are seeing is precisely what we want to see, a flowering of a public discussion, sometimes violent, oftentimes not in which these important issues about the
maybe you have met morsi? >> several times. >> to me, this is not my point, other people have made it. there's a lot of putenesque qualities. putin is running the show and proven remarkably inept and i wonder if there are differences to understand. >> there's something i like about your question. we are talking about morsi, not the muse limb brotherhood. lots of people look at what morsi has done add say this proves islam is incompatible. morsi is acting the way egyptian...
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they said that morsi's decree, quote, defies belief. many other judges and lawyers and journalists have now got on didn't bandwagon and striking. so far, morsi is defiant, refusing to rescind his decree and he has, however, managed or acknowledged some type of wriggle room for negotiation. still, while this battle plays out in the courts, the protesters behind me in tahrir square say they won't let up until morsi tears up the decree and now the opposition which as you know drew a crowd of 200,000 last night called for a very similar protest on friday while morsi's islamist backers are planning a massive show of support on saturday and now unless that changes, they say that's going to take place right here behind me where those protesters are camped out so they could -- there could be some serious violence and confrontation come saturday. back to you, tamron. >> jim, also the equip shan economy took another big hit, as well, today. >> reporter: that's right. and the stark reality is that every day that the uncertainty and political turmo
they said that morsi's decree, quote, defies belief. many other judges and lawyers and journalists have now got on didn't bandwagon and striking. so far, morsi is defiant, refusing to rescind his decree and he has, however, managed or acknowledged some type of wriggle room for negotiation. still, while this battle plays out in the courts, the protesters behind me in tahrir square say they won't let up until morsi tears up the decree and now the opposition which as you know drew a crowd of...
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>> i think there's a misconception of morsi's role. i don't think morsi sees himself as the police man that will control hamas. he sees himself as a mediator, as a negotiator, and he would love to be the one that would eventually broker a peace deal. he doesn't want to control hamas militarily. he would like to negotiate with israel, and with them, and be included in any u.s. bilateral negotiation eventually. but he will not be the policeman. i mean, we need to forget the idea that we will control hamas militarily. >> but, if hamas gets out of control, doesn't it have detrimental effect on egypt? isn't it in his interest to ensure the security of hamas, and keep things quiet and calm in, you know, the gaza strip and elsewhere? >> i think he needs to keep quiet and calm in his own country, in his -- at home. he has -- he's trying to put himself above the law and he's trying to ensure more power saying to the people trust me, i am the revolution, i am the guy that, you know, gets rid of mubarak and he's becoming a second mubarak. so it w
>> i think there's a misconception of morsi's role. i don't think morsi sees himself as the police man that will control hamas. he sees himself as a mediator, as a negotiator, and he would love to be the one that would eventually broker a peace deal. he doesn't want to control hamas militarily. he would like to negotiate with israel, and with them, and be included in any u.s. bilateral negotiation eventually. but he will not be the policeman. i mean, we need to forget the idea that we...
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>> well, what morsi needs is a safe border, and i think part of the challenge from morsi is somewhere in this calculation has been can egypt be the garn tore that once a cease-fire is declared, that hamas will hold its fire? and obviously hamas is a major protagonist in this, but not the only one. i think from egypt's standpoint they also recognize there's a dynamic between hamas and bedouin groups along the israeli/egyptian boarders that have been causing troubles over the past year. i think if the security situation is stabilized, that can only be good news, you know, for mohammed morsi and egypt. >> from your experience if diplomatic engagements if secretary clinton does make progress here, does he leave town and monitor from afar or is there any situation where she might try to do more than a stop gap measure by staying in the region or nearby? >> no. i think this is a major achievement and if the cease-fire is in place, then you have the first of what i think are three, you know, critical situations. the first is, stop, you know, holding the immediate -- getting the cease-fire in
>> well, what morsi needs is a safe border, and i think part of the challenge from morsi is somewhere in this calculation has been can egypt be the garn tore that once a cease-fire is declared, that hamas will hold its fire? and obviously hamas is a major protagonist in this, but not the only one. i think from egypt's standpoint they also recognize there's a dynamic between hamas and bedouin groups along the israeli/egyptian boarders that have been causing troubles over the past year. i...
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mohamed morsi has taken advantage perhaps of u.s. support and solidified his own power exempting himself from judicial review until a new constitution is ratified. a process he has extended by two months. he dismissed the country's tern general. more than 500 people injured in four days of clashes between police and protesters who have set up tents in cairo's tahrir square and attack the offices of president mohamed morsi's freedom and justice party, the political wing of the muslim brotherhood. riot police in this video were caught brutally beating and dragging away several pr protesters. on sunday egypt's stock market lost nearly $9 billion or 10% of its value. the nation's judges have threaten threatened to strike. the justice minister arguing publicly for him to change course and a handful of senior advisers have resigned. the truce with gaza which could be a feter in clinton's cap if it holds 0, the state department, though, in an awkward position. victoria newland release add very tentative statement expressing, quote, concern
mohamed morsi has taken advantage perhaps of u.s. support and solidified his own power exempting himself from judicial review until a new constitution is ratified. a process he has extended by two months. he dismissed the country's tern general. more than 500 people injured in four days of clashes between police and protesters who have set up tents in cairo's tahrir square and attack the offices of president mohamed morsi's freedom and justice party, the political wing of the muslim...
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president morsi, the last thing he needs is for something he brokered to break down. it enhances his power. he has problems on the inside, he doesn't need a problem on the outside. hamas is claiming they had great achievements. if they get back into a conflict with the israelis, there go those achievements. and the israelis obviously want to have calm as well. so i think all three sides have an interest in preserving this. there will be tests from time to time, that's a given. the fact that the iranians will try to get arms in there very quickly is also a given. i think the israelis will act to prevent that but i don't think it will break down the cease-fire. >> and then we have another situation that may be a sideshow in terms of the impact but we have a vote scheduled for thursday at the united nations where the palestinians are seeking some legitimacy, the other palestinians, the fatah wing, mahmoud abbas is coming to new york to have a vote in the general assembly which will be a largely symbolic vote on statehood, especially after hamas has flexed its muscles and
president morsi, the last thing he needs is for something he brokered to break down. it enhances his power. he has problems on the inside, he doesn't need a problem on the outside. hamas is claiming they had great achievements. if they get back into a conflict with the israelis, there go those achievements. and the israelis obviously want to have calm as well. so i think all three sides have an interest in preserving this. there will be tests from time to time, that's a given. the fact that the...
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it's composed of islamists, people who support morsi. and, believe it or not, they finished their constitution in record time. and now because they have the protection of morsi, the constitution cannot be challenged. that's why people are out on the street here. they think that this whole process has been a sham. that morsi grabbed powers, he had his allies rush through a constitution that, according to people here, doesn't protect women's rights sufficiently, gives too much power or potential power to islamic clerics in this country, makes coptic christians second-class citizens. a whole host of grievances against this new draft constitution. there are other people in this society, morsi supporters, who think this cushionstitution is fabulous. egypt is very divided. we expect morsi to come out and say to all egyptian people the constitution is written. now you the people have the right to vote on it. and half the people in this country, the people who are represented here in tahrir, are going to clearly vote no. but most observers expec
it's composed of islamists, people who support morsi. and, believe it or not, they finished their constitution in record time. and now because they have the protection of morsi, the constitution cannot be challenged. that's why people are out on the street here. they think that this whole process has been a sham. that morsi grabbed powers, he had his allies rush through a constitution that, according to people here, doesn't protect women's rights sufficiently, gives too much power or potential...
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in terms of morsi's role, as you say, he's a key mediator here. and if he emerges with a deal, there's no question but that this man, and keep in mind he's the former leader of the muslim brotherhood, he will emerge as a top regional power broker, that everyone will have to listen to. but the question is, will he get a deal? i mean, both sides seem to be close. they said they were close, within hours yesterday. that didn't happen. they just don't seem yet to be able to close the deal and that does give secretary of state hillary clinton's visit here much more urgency. >> jim, and real quick, we've seen a lot of protests in egypt over the last few months in regards to their own power struggle, but just from your feeling being there on the ground, the scitizenry has obviously had their own very spirited opinions about israel for some time, mubarak had that long-standing peace agreement but, of course, he was deposed. what does the public feel about this conflict and how much pressure are they exerting on morsi? is there any fear of egyptian public p
in terms of morsi's role, as you say, he's a key mediator here. and if he emerges with a deal, there's no question but that this man, and keep in mind he's the former leader of the muslim brotherhood, he will emerge as a top regional power broker, that everyone will have to listen to. but the question is, will he get a deal? i mean, both sides seem to be close. they said they were close, within hours yesterday. that didn't happen. they just don't seem yet to be able to close the deal and that...
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you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a statement moments ago saying in part, quote, we call for calm and encourage all parties to work together and call for all egyptians to resolve their differences over these important issues peacefully and through democratic dialogue. jim maceda will join us coming up in 20 minutes right here. >>> turning from egypt now to the border between israel and gaza where a two-day cease fire is already being tested. israeli troops shot and killed a 20-year-old man on the gaza side of the line today. the first death since the truce. nbc news reporting that the man was trying to get to his family farm. we have
you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a...
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the sixth straight day of protest after morsi issued his decree last thursday. earlier today, the protest turning violent on a street near tahrir square. at least three protesters have been killed since the weekend. nbc live from cairo. and the crowd in tahrir square has been growing, building over the past hours. explain what we're seeing now. >> reporter: well, behind me, probably tens of thousands of egyptians have gathered, been here since the early hours of the morning. in fact, some have been camped out for the past six days. many songs, chants, slogans reminiscent of two years ago, calling on the same things they did two years ago, which is for the president of egypt to step down. they've changed the name, obviously, to reflect egypt's new islamist president. you mentioned that incident today with the tear gas and the police, that took place outside the u.s. embassy. riot police there fired tear gas and rubber bullets to try to keep the crowds at bay. one of the central issues of the protesters behind me is that since the end of the revolution, egypt's po
the sixth straight day of protest after morsi issued his decree last thursday. earlier today, the protest turning violent on a street near tahrir square. at least three protesters have been killed since the weekend. nbc live from cairo. and the crowd in tahrir square has been growing, building over the past hours. explain what we're seeing now. >> reporter: well, behind me, probably tens of thousands of egyptians have gathered, been here since the early hours of the morning. in fact, some...
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the big test here is whether or not president morsi of egypt is able to have more of a relationship with hamas to bring hamas along with a reconciliation, bring them to the table than mubarak ever was because hamas is an outgrowth or a spiritual kin with the muslim brotherhood which is where morsi comes from historically, whereas hamas was an enemy of mubarak and had a situation where neither israel nor egypt has wanted to take responsibility for what's going on in gaza city so it's not like morsi wants to take responsibility for gaza but sponsoring the peace and i think slowly but surely he wants to bring hamas along to show the world that he's a guy that can deal with hamas, bring hamas to the table, present some sort of detente between egypt, hamas and israel. >> the palestinian people and who is in gaza and, guys, showing the map one more time, the geography to get the visual here, this is gaza, the gaza strip. it's basically twice the size of washington, d.c. with over 1.5 million people crammed in to the borders and hamas in civilian neighborhoods to draw israeli strikes in and the
the big test here is whether or not president morsi of egypt is able to have more of a relationship with hamas to bring hamas along with a reconciliation, bring them to the table than mubarak ever was because hamas is an outgrowth or a spiritual kin with the muslim brotherhood which is where morsi comes from historically, whereas hamas was an enemy of mubarak and had a situation where neither israel nor egypt has wanted to take responsibility for what's going on in gaza city so it's not like...
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we've seen the roll mohamed morsi played in actually trying to broker this makes all of the logic in the world that we should be trying to foster communication between all of the sides and not ignore one party over the other. >> diana, how challenging is it for hamas to put under its tent, under its umbrella, if you will, splinter groups, offshoots, factions that they necessarily don't have control over? is that where a lot of the problem lies? >> no. the problem largely lies in the fact that there have been competing strategies in terms of how to address israel's occupation. on the one hand abbas said we are only going to pursue negotiations and we've seen those have failed and other sides who have said that clearly the negotiations aren't working. clearly the negotiations have failed and, therefore, we have to pursue another strategy of defending ourselves. now in order for this to move forward, for us as palestinians to be able to move forward and to get this, to actually begin to hold israel accountable, there has to be a unified strategy and all palestinians have come forward an
we've seen the roll mohamed morsi played in actually trying to broker this makes all of the logic in the world that we should be trying to foster communication between all of the sides and not ignore one party over the other. >> diana, how challenging is it for hamas to put under its tent, under its umbrella, if you will, splinter groups, offshoots, factions that they necessarily don't have control over? is that where a lot of the problem lies? >> no. the problem largely lies in the...
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there she is meeting with egyptian president morsi. she has been shuttling back and forth between jerusalem, the west bank, now in cairo trying to stop the violence, of course not meeting with hamas leaders but with president morsi, who is acting as an intermediary to the messages for hamas. we will seep you posted as we learn more about that diplomacy that is ongoing. >>> in just a few hours, president obama has a big decision to make. will it be cobbler or gobbler? the president will make the annual turkey pardon in the rose guardn this afternoon. one bird will become the national turkey and both will escape the thanksgiving dinner table and live the rest of their lives on george washington's mt. vernon estate in virginia. nbc deputy political editor domenidoe men joins was more on the annual tradition. this is one of your favorites, history buff that you are. it doesn't go back as far as i thought it might. >> it doesn't go back all that far. there was some confusion 15 years ago in bill clinton's pardon ceremony where he credited h
there she is meeting with egyptian president morsi. she has been shuttling back and forth between jerusalem, the west bank, now in cairo trying to stop the violence, of course not meeting with hamas leaders but with president morsi, who is acting as an intermediary to the messages for hamas. we will seep you posted as we learn more about that diplomacy that is ongoing. >>> in just a few hours, president obama has a big decision to make. will it be cobbler or gobbler? the president will...
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clashes in cairo today, more protests in tahrir square against egypt's president morsi. we'll have a live report. move over george clooney the on yan's kim junge un the sexiest man alive and beijing doesn't get the joke. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. no joke today on capitol hill. ambassador susan rice's attempt to clear the air with republicans over benghazi did not work as the white house had hoped. senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't know anything about this, i'm going on every single show. >> joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com and our own nbc cap
clashes in cairo today, more protests in tahrir square against egypt's president morsi. we'll have a live report. move over george clooney the on yan's kim junge un the sexiest man alive and beijing doesn't get the joke. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. no joke today on capitol hill. ambassador susan rice's attempt to clear the air with republicans over benghazi did not work as the white house had hoped. senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they...
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it's messy and morsi is finding that out. i don't think that what he did was right, and i don't think it will hold. >> with regard to what he's doing now by ordering some retrials in terms of hosni mubarak and his cabinet, what might that do to the situation there? do you worry that would have inflaming factions there? >> i think it clearly will trigger protests. had already has for many leading officials. not so much with respect to that one action but by the truly sweeping powers he claims to himself and even if he is sincere in saying it's only for a little while, democracy a little while is too much. >> it's hard to give those powers up once you've achieved them certainly. his role in helping obtain this cea ceasefire, sir, do you think he will be a stabilizing force in the region? do you think he is someone the united states can count on? >> well, obviously it will vary from issue to issue and from time to time. the two actions juxtaposed next to each other is very positive kicks on the peace process and this latest acti
it's messy and morsi is finding that out. i don't think that what he did was right, and i don't think it will hold. >> with regard to what he's doing now by ordering some retrials in terms of hosni mubarak and his cabinet, what might that do to the situation there? do you worry that would have inflaming factions there? >> i think it clearly will trigger protests. had already has for many leading officials. not so much with respect to that one action but by the truly sweeping powers...
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if hillary clinton can pressure hamas and can be persuaded by mohamed morsi her chances are pretty good. if she cannot, then i think this will be another round of fighting, potentially even a ground war. i don't think israel wants a ground war. i don't think hamas would mind a ground war. a much more bloody -- would get involved. not the egyptian government, the egyptian people would start streaming in here. the arab media that was so influential in bringing down a rack dictatorships here would go into a state of -- that would benefit hamas. so i think it really depends on how much influence hillary clinton can have over morsi and how much influence morsi can have because even though this area here is being pounded militarily and there was the heaviest air strikes tonight that we have seen thus far, hamas feels -- >> richard engel, live from gaza. thank you. thank you for staying up in the middle of the night. stay safe. >>> thinking about the leverage here that the american government has, we all judge our diplomacy of our own government based on what outcome they are able to achieve n
if hillary clinton can pressure hamas and can be persuaded by mohamed morsi her chances are pretty good. if she cannot, then i think this will be another round of fighting, potentially even a ground war. i don't think israel wants a ground war. i don't think hamas would mind a ground war. a much more bloody -- would get involved. not the egyptian government, the egyptian people would start streaming in here. the arab media that was so influential in bringing down a rack dictatorships here would...
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he is stepping up to the role, an international role, that we had not expected morsi to assume. what is your hope? >> our hope in the past was egypt would fulfill a constructive role in the past it had fulfilled a constructive role and here it has, and we appreciate that contribution. >> what does israel now want to see in terms of the long-range missiles? what proof do you need, what evidence do you need to see that the smuggling has stopped and that hamas is stepping up to its political responsibility to police itself and to govern before you will agree to take down the blockade? >> well, we regard hamas as the government of gaza. it's responsible for what goes on in the strip from the shooting that comes out of the strip at israeli civilians. hamas has to step up to the plate, assume that responsibility, has to be accountable. that's very important for us. the block cade is not a full blockade. >> it's a blockade from their perspective. food and medicine gets in. >> we check ships to make sure there are no iranian arms on them. that's the extent. until iran stops shipping arm
he is stepping up to the role, an international role, that we had not expected morsi to assume. what is your hope? >> our hope in the past was egypt would fulfill a constructive role in the past it had fulfilled a constructive role and here it has, and we appreciate that contribution. >> what does israel now want to see in terms of the long-range missiles? what proof do you need, what evidence do you need to see that the smuggling has stopped and that hamas is stepping up to its...
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andrea, this is because president morsi has seized power, a day after brokering a cease-fire between israel and hamas, he is now consolidating power. how worry side the administration about it? >> very worried, but they are very, very cautious because he is their new point of leverage really with hamas. he is the future, they thought, of trying to negotiate something and revive the israeli-palestinian talks. and now suddenly he seizes power. he was looking for this opportunity. he is threatened by the judiciary and the other mubarak forces who have, he believes, stopped the constitutional process and stymied that. but for him to do this now, at his point of greatest authority, puts the administration in a bind. and it's unclear how this is going to resolve. >> david brooks, there's a larger strategic question. there's egypt, gaza, syria, iran. there's a president's second term that's got to be dominated by this region. >> i think so. it's the middle east, so there's good news and bad news. the good news is that the obama administration did an excellent job of supporting israel all th
andrea, this is because president morsi has seized power, a day after brokering a cease-fire between israel and hamas, he is now consolidating power. how worry side the administration about it? >> very worried, but they are very, very cautious because he is their new point of leverage really with hamas. he is the future, they thought, of trying to negotiate something and revive the israeli-palestinian talks. and now suddenly he seizes power. he was looking for this opportunity. he is...
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we'll have to see. >> you talked about mow home home whom mid morsi. when it comes to enforcing what's happening miles away along this border, who is it that will do this? who is it that judges, yousef, whether it's a violation? >> sure. the bigger problem is it was very big. the other part of the problem is while the egyptians have good relations with israel and hamas, they have far more leverage over hamas. the so-called buffer zone that we see is exclusively on territory inside gaza. there's no buffer zone on the israeli side. there's no protection for the people of gaza from the israelis. that so-called buffer zone takes up 50% of the arabal lands in gaza which can produce up to 83,000 tons annually of produce. the same sort of restrictions along the border cuts off 80% of the territorial waters of gaza which restricts the fishing industry. the question moving forward is not simply about ceasing fire but also about easing these restrictions that are ending up resulting in a collective punishment of a million and a half people. >> i spoke earlier to
we'll have to see. >> you talked about mow home home whom mid morsi. when it comes to enforcing what's happening miles away along this border, who is it that will do this? who is it that judges, yousef, whether it's a violation? >> sure. the bigger problem is it was very big. the other part of the problem is while the egyptians have good relations with israel and hamas, they have far more leverage over hamas. the so-called buffer zone that we see is exclusively on territory inside...
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but i think that it's remarkable, alex, really, to see the kind of praise that president morsi is receiving. even in those defiant speeches that ayman was referring to, hamas leaders, islamic jihad leaders, benjamin netanyahu's comments last night, secretary clinton's comments last night, president obama's praise, everybody has good things to say about morsi, who has now emerged not only as a can-do politician, but a power broker in the region. for instance, when the truce deal needed to be closed and clinton came to cairo, she spent hours with morsi and with his foreign minister, mohammed kamul, finding the compromise that israel and hamas could live with. mainly stop the hostilities today and negotiate the other demands later. alex? >> jim, thank you very much for that live report from cairo with the latest on the brokering of the truce. joining me now, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. for special affairs, stewart is a special assistant to the president and is currently president and ceo of the nonpartisan meridian international center in washington. welcome, stewart, thank you for bein
but i think that it's remarkable, alex, really, to see the kind of praise that president morsi is receiving. even in those defiant speeches that ayman was referring to, hamas leaders, islamic jihad leaders, benjamin netanyahu's comments last night, secretary clinton's comments last night, president obama's praise, everybody has good things to say about morsi, who has now emerged not only as a can-do politician, but a power broker in the region. for instance, when the truce deal needed to be...
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anybody who thought that president morsi could come in and act like president mubarak and could rule as opposed to govern, there's no doubt that's not the case. there's no doubt he miscalculated. he thought in the aftermath of brokering a ceasefire between israel and hamas, that gave him a new standing internationally, gave him new stature in the region, and it did and he could somehow use that to convert it into new power within egypt himself. what he's finding is in fact the new egypt is an egypt where people feel that their voices matter and that there's not going to be a new ruler. there's going to need to be a president who governs and he who governs is going to have to govern recognizing and respecting checks and balances. >> certainly democracy is a very slow process and certainly for a country that's never had it before. we'll be watching the this for a generation or more to come. but you mentioned the fact that morsi fell emboldened after brokering the deal between gaza and israel. as we speak of middle east peace, president mahmoud abbas met in new york with the deputy secr
anybody who thought that president morsi could come in and act like president mubarak and could rule as opposed to govern, there's no doubt that's not the case. there's no doubt he miscalculated. he thought in the aftermath of brokering a ceasefire between israel and hamas, that gave him a new standing internationally, gave him new stature in the region, and it did and he could somehow use that to convert it into new power within egypt himself. what he's finding is in fact the new egypt is an...
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says to her about what israel's goals are and again when she goes to cairo and meets with president morsi, which is arguably the most important stop on this trip. >> because he's the mediator. >> and president obama has developed a very interesting relationship over the past -- >> i think we have to hold onto morsi. >> -- with the president of egypt. >> don't you? >> absolutely. >> last word, steve. how important -- >> let's be clear -- >> always had the deal between israel and egypt in the interest of both countries and our country. can we keep that deal? is there some architecture for peace there? >> we're going to try to keep that deal absolutely, but, remember, we're complicit in part of what happened. obama when he took george mitchell's resignation and basically moved dennis ross out of the white house, he doesn't put a new program on the table. and when america walks away from this peace process or an effort to bring the two sides together and really lay out a plan, violence kicks up. so we have a bit of complicity, and you are seeing right now not a strategic presidency from obama
says to her about what israel's goals are and again when she goes to cairo and meets with president morsi, which is arguably the most important stop on this trip. >> because he's the mediator. >> and president obama has developed a very interesting relationship over the past -- >> i think we have to hold onto morsi. >> -- with the president of egypt. >> don't you? >> absolutely. >> last word, steve. how important -- >> let's be clear -- >>...
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morsi's decrees, they say, feel they are a sign of times to come. it r will it be secular or islamic? they fear it's heading towards theorocracy like iran. >> are people harp pending back to mubarak days when things lasted, i don't know, three decades? >> look it, people have known in this country they've known power grabs, military coos, assassinations and nothing but that. so, of course, that's the baseline that they go on. there's a real fear amongst all of those people who are not muslim brotherhood that morsi is going to use their power, at least some would suggest paranoid about it, they are very hyper sensitive to what has happened. they understand that in different times, in recent history and different countries, hitler comes to mind, that people who you trusted turned out to do things that turned out to be extremely evil and hurtful to the country. so that's really where they are at, which suggests that people here are worried and they are angry and there's -- emotions are on an edge here. >> jim maceda, thanks so much. >>> much of the foc
morsi's decrees, they say, feel they are a sign of times to come. it r will it be secular or islamic? they fear it's heading towards theorocracy like iran. >> are people harp pending back to mubarak days when things lasted, i don't know, three decades? >> look it, people have known in this country they've known power grabs, military coos, assassinations and nothing but that. so, of course, that's the baseline that they go on. there's a real fear amongst all of those people who are...
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morsi was involved in the ceasefire. but i think it is up to him now to demonstrate that he is going to stand with us, going to hohn 0or that peace treaty with israel that is so important to u.s. interests in the region, and actually facilitate what all of us would like to see there which is freedom for more egyptians. >> politically morsi seems clearly to be siding with hamas in that conflict. was he just playing for a certain element in egypt? because behind the scenes he was working with us to broker a peace. >> he is of the muslim brotherhood party. it is a party steeped in some of the very, very anti-western, anti-american ways. hamas has the same roots so it is a political situation that's very challenging but we look to him to be a leader and come down on the side of freedom and to recognize israel's right to exist as a jewish state in the region. that's what we're going to look for especially when he is coming to the white house which will come to congress to look for taxpayer aid for egypt. >> all right, congres
morsi was involved in the ceasefire. but i think it is up to him now to demonstrate that he is going to stand with us, going to hohn 0or that peace treaty with israel that is so important to u.s. interests in the region, and actually facilitate what all of us would like to see there which is freedom for more egyptians. >> politically morsi seems clearly to be siding with hamas in that conflict. was he just playing for a certain element in egypt? because behind the scenes he was working...
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>> craig, elections have consequences and after all the egyptian people voted to put morsi and his party into power. the real struggle here as jim just mentioned is about the future of the parliament that was disbanded and the constitutional drafting committee whether or not in the end these two bodies will wind up reinforcing the islamization of egypt's society and this wasn't a close election so there is a divided country in egypt and this will have to play itself out. i don't think the united states should put took bogs in the fight at this point because we have bigger fish to fry to mix the metaphors up in gaza and the wore that morsi would play in helping to calm things down between israel and hamas. too much intervention at this point in time is not going to basically solve the overall problem for the united states and the middle east. >> i want to get your take on the republican opposition to susan rice who may be tapped to succeed hillary clinton over the weekend, the harshest critic, john mccain softening the rhetoric. let's take a listen. >> is there anything that ambassador ri
>> craig, elections have consequences and after all the egyptian people voted to put morsi and his party into power. the real struggle here as jim just mentioned is about the future of the parliament that was disbanded and the constitutional drafting committee whether or not in the end these two bodies will wind up reinforcing the islamization of egypt's society and this wasn't a close election so there is a divided country in egypt and this will have to play itself out. i don't think the...
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opponents of president morsi are rallying for a fifth day. the crowd is expected to grow as the day goes on. but one person has already been killed. hundreds of others have been injured. >>> meanwhile, morsi supporters canceled their own rally they planned for today citing the need to defuse tension. demonstrations supporting the president could go ahead outside of the capital. >>> back at home new jersey governor chris christie has made it official, he's running for re-election. he filed papers yesterday, told reporters that he wants to stay on the job to help sandy torn new jersey through the rebuilding and recovery. it's unclear who his democratic challenger will be. some speculated mayor cory booker or state senator richard coady cody. cory booker probably would head that list and that's been the talked about speculation on that front. >>> a date set to fill the u.s. house seat left open by jesse jackson jr.'s resignation. the general election is set for march 19. running among other names mentioned contenders are jackson's wife, sandy ja
opponents of president morsi are rallying for a fifth day. the crowd is expected to grow as the day goes on. but one person has already been killed. hundreds of others have been injured. >>> meanwhile, morsi supporters canceled their own rally they planned for today citing the need to defuse tension. demonstrations supporting the president could go ahead outside of the capital. >>> back at home new jersey governor chris christie has made it official, he's running for...
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that's the pro morsi line of thinking. the other line of thinking is that the muslim brotherhood is more hard line than they would claim to be, that this is a huge power grab, that we're going to see a hardening of islamic law, sharia law in egypt and we'll see sort of a turn in the region that would be quite worrisome. looking at facts, looking at what's happened, so far, morsi, although he sits under this umbrella of the muslim brotherhood, has not taken the strict sharia law into effect, no extreme dress codes for women. you have to look at the hype and you have to look at action. >> the real tell, seems to have a man crush on charlton heston. looking for peace, looking for balance. >> thank you, donny, for bringing us back to the essence of the matter. >> you can find so much wisdom in "planet of the apes," the old one, not the new one. i should let you read the interview. you got to buy the magazine. >> we all want to know. >> big charlton heston fan. >> we learn at the beginning of this very insightful interview that
that's the pro morsi line of thinking. the other line of thinking is that the muslim brotherhood is more hard line than they would claim to be, that this is a huge power grab, that we're going to see a hardening of islamic law, sharia law in egypt and we'll see sort of a turn in the region that would be quite worrisome. looking at facts, looking at what's happened, so far, morsi, although he sits under this umbrella of the muslim brotherhood, has not taken the strict sharia law into effect, no...
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in terms of her impact today, she's met already with president morsi. she's also wrapping up a meeting with the foreign minister and we understand at the press conference she's supposed to give has not started yet. but i can guarantee you that many people here in egypt and israel are intent on following that press conference. unlike yesterday, there have been no dramatic statements that a cease-fire will be declared at such and such a time. today it's more the reality of both sides, israel and hamas, getting bogged down in details. apparently, at least according to egyptian sources, they haven't yet been able to bridge differences. it's really unclear whether secretary clinton is carrying any specific proposals or if is she's here basically to nudge both sides into some kind of a compromise. but her presence here does give both sides the respected international i'd say political heavyweight to talk to, which certainly can't hurt. according to egyptian sources again, the main sticking point as we understand it seems to be over hamas' key demand, and it's
in terms of her impact today, she's met already with president morsi. she's also wrapping up a meeting with the foreign minister and we understand at the press conference she's supposed to give has not started yet. but i can guarantee you that many people here in egypt and israel are intent on following that press conference. unlike yesterday, there have been no dramatic statements that a cease-fire will be declared at such and such a time. today it's more the reality of both sides, israel and...
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palestinian president abbas, egyptian president morsi and foreign minister and head of theu.n. and leader of the arab league behind closed doors. >> this is a critical moment for the region. egypt's new government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a cornerstone of regional stability and peace. >> we start with nbc's jim macedo in cairo. who what are the details? >> reporter: well, steve, most importantly, starting at 2:00 p.m. as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed formal agreement here. instead, israel and hamas reached an understanding, a kind of exchange of quiet for quiet. the first phase of a broader agreement. that should be followed by more intense negotiations, those will be anchored and guaranteed we understand by egypt and the united states. to try to resolve the key demands on both sides. of course, for hamas, the lifting of that 6-year-old blockade of gaza. for isr
palestinian president abbas, egyptian president morsi and foreign minister and head of theu.n. and leader of the arab league behind closed doors. >> this is a critical moment for the region. egypt's new government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a cornerstone of regional stability and peace. >> we start with nbc's jim macedo in cairo. who what are the details? >> reporter: well, steve, most importantly, starting at 2:00 p.m. as you...
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egypt is -- morsi is the lynchpen here. if there's any stabilization between israel and hamas over the next several weeks, egypt is going to have to enforce it because the hamas and the islamic jihad and others in gaza are trying to get weapons and those weapons are often supplied through egypt and morsi has got to make a decision here. is he going to be the muslim brotherhood ideology or going to be practical. if he's going to be practical he has to enforce this border. if not, dr. brzezinski, any deal they reach will be torn up within a couple weeks once the rockets start launching. >> dr. brzezinski? >> i think that's almost comical because that's really just taking one-sided issue -- >> dan, i told you that. >> stunning. >> stunning -- >> focusing -- >> hold on. that's my label. don't take my label. >> stunningly superficial. >> that's my label. >> you're comical. >> we can take our show -- >> almost comical. >> almost. >> i'm sorry. go ahead, dr. brzezinski. >> if we are expecting the egyptians to become surrogate poli
egypt is -- morsi is the lynchpen here. if there's any stabilization between israel and hamas over the next several weeks, egypt is going to have to enforce it because the hamas and the islamic jihad and others in gaza are trying to get weapons and those weapons are often supplied through egypt and morsi has got to make a decision here. is he going to be the muslim brotherhood ideology or going to be practical. if he's going to be practical he has to enforce this border. if not, dr. brzezinski,...